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aspendougy
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Here is an excerpt from the LA TIMES, What neighbors and friends have said:
Friends of the family say their situation is not at all one of criminal abuse, but of extreme poverty.They describe highly intelligent children who were involved in soccer and scouts and who were cared for as best they could by struggling parents."The Sheriff's Department is punishing those kids for being homeless," said Leanna Munroe, who has known the family for nine years.
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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jstan. Thank you for you insight into reality for many people who live in the high desert communities. We know this family quite well. They played soccer with our kids and went to dance and gymnastics lessons with our kids. No, they don't need 30 cats and yes;..they should have asked for help. It's a struggle being poor. As a school teacher in the high desert for 30+ years, I see the struggles of many poor families. It's heart breaking, real, and very very common. They needed to ask for help, and get rid of the cats. Hope the family gets reunited and gets the help they need. This is a tough situation. My heart goes out to this family, and all the families in this basin that are stuggling to survive with kids and no money.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there, say, todd... thank you for a very heart-felt post...
will keep them in prayers...
thanks for sharing your insight, too, with us all...
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10b4me
Social climber
Janie's
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apparently they owned the land, but could not afford to build a house.
Some people are sticking up for them. However, why didn't their friends offer to help them out?
the thing that always comes in to play is if there are kids.
This is a tough situation.
yes it is, and that's why there are always two sides to every story.
Thanks, Todd, for your comment.
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mynameismud
climber
backseat
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I can relate to the poverty part. My family lived for 3 years with no electricity or running water. Water was a creek 50 yards from the house. We ate what we raised. As a family of five we started out with an eighteen foot camp trailer and over the years we built our house out of scrap lumber. I remember when we finally got electricity. At a different house I remember coming home to start the kitchen fire and not being able to find the damper, well that was because it was an electric stove, who would would have thunk it. Just turn the knob. I guess one of our advantages was we lived out in the woods so not to many folks saw what was going on.
I think part of the problem is the vast majority of the population have absolutely no idea what poverty is like and what all goes with it. It is difficult to come up with a viable solution when you do not truly understand the problem. It has taken me decades of hindsight to begin to understand.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there say, todd... or anyone...
say, i am curious... a friend of mine, who was helping someone with their kids, said she was doing it, because:
he had just lost his home, and was already divorced, and, could not afford to
put advance payment and rent a place... and, since he could not do this,
SHE SAID (and i do not know if this is true) that,
if he could not show proof of a place to live, that they would take
his kids away to foster care...
is that true???
if, so, it makes me wonder if the family did not want
to get help, for fear that the kids would be taken away???
COULD that have happened???
though, now, of course, it has happened... :(
well, i was just curious... it is a very scary thing when
someone is in fear of their kids being taken away...
:(
hope and prayers, that will turn, somehow,
into good, for this family...
:(
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mynameismud
climber
backseat
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If you do not have a place to live they will take the kids. Sometimes they will help the family get started. Sometimes is the key word. Protective services can be a good thing, but families do not like being taken apart. Sometimes what you have is better than what might be. It is all a crap shoot. This county for all its wealth does poorly with the poor.
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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This county for all its wealth does poorly with the poor.
An understatement . . . but does not the Donald love the poor? He sure is trying to make more of them.
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